We had a great discussion this week with Rick Spicer from Pack Rat Outdoor Center in Fayetteville, AR. Rick is part owner of the center and is an avid outdoorsmen. We dive deep into his passion for the outdoors as we discuss his vast experience in mountaineering and the skills he is building regarding bushcraft. What makes him even cooler is that Rick also loves to hunt which goes hand in hand with his desire to be in wile places. We also discuss why there is a gap between hunting and non-hunting outdoorsman and how to possibly bridge that gap. Our conclusion is that part of guarding the gate is opening the gate.